Alejandro
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A catalogue of questions I've been trying to get answered for awhile now. Anyone interested in changing the "Impossible" part of the equation? Wild guesses are also welcome... as a nerdy academic exercise, or better yet: plainly just for fun! (Or is there a difference between the two? )
1. Ornis. Said to be the mother, by King Stymphalos of Arkadia, of the voracious monster birds which plagued the Arkadian Lake Stymphalos, and which Herakles (Hercules) was ordered to get rid of as one of his twelve athloi. Who or what was Ornis? A hint: her name means "Bird," and I think she's an ornithanthropomorphic monster nymph like the Seirenes (Sirens) or the Harpies, but what do I know…?
2. Erytheia. Said to be the daughter of Geryones and mother, by Hermes, of the colonist hero Norax. Who was her mother, and is she supposed to have been a [perhaps red many-bodied] giant or ogre like her father?
3. Why are Akakallis and Satyraia (or Satyrion), daughters of Minos and Pasiphai, called nymphs while their sisters Ariadne, Phaidra and Xenodike appear to be ordinary women?
4. Ourea (Urea). Daughter of Poseidon and mother by Apollon (Apollo) of Ileus. Who was her mother, and is Ourea supposed to be a mountain-goddess (like her niece Aitna [Ætna]), since her name means "Mountain"?
5. Europe. Daughter of Tityos and mother by Poseidon of the Argonaut Euphemos. Is she supposed to be a giant (like her father) or a nymph or both?
6. Asterope. Mother by Helios of the witch Kirke (Circe). Might she be the same as the Pleiad Sterope, daughter of Atlas and Pleïone?
7. Pampholyge (or is it Pamphyloge?). Mother by Okeanos of Asia and Libya (Anatolia and Africa). Who is she?! I'm guessing she's a daughter of Okeanos with whom he himself consorted, like he did with another daughter Argeia, the mother of their daughter Melia (who married the Inakhos River). But what d'you think?
8. Memnon. Father of Theia, who becomes by Okeanos the mother of the Kerkopes (Cercopes.) Who is he?! Is he supposed to be the son of Tithonos and Eos, or are we talking about a different Memnon here?
9. Is Antianeira the mother by Hermes of the Argonauts Ekhion and Eurytos the same as Antianeira the mother by Apollon of Idmon?
10. Pyronia (or Phronia?). Mother by Minos of Iasion. Who is she?! An obscure fire-goddess, maybe?
11. Euryodia. Mother by Zeus of Arkeisios. Who is she?! A daughter of Minyas, perhaps?
12. Parthenope. The wife of Okeanos and mother of Europa, Thrace and Amphitrite. Is she supposed to be the same as Parthenope the Seiren (Siren)?
13. Zabios. King of the Hyperboreans, father of Themisto, grandfather of Galeus and ancestor of the Galeotai. What else about him or other Hyperborean kings?
14. Himantis. Mother by Apollon of Mopsos. Who is she?!
15. Manto. Mother by Apollon of Mopsos (a different one from the one above in #14?). Is she perhaps the same as Manto the daughter of Teiresias?
16. Babylonia. A nymph by whom Apollon became the father of Arabios. What else about her, apart from the obvious like the ancient empire based in what is now Iraq being named after her?
17. Pitys. A nymph who the North Wind Boreas smashed to death against a rock because she rejected his sexual advances. Is she supposed to be the same Pitys loved by Pan and who was changed into a pine-tree?
18. Torrhebia. A nymph who became by Zeus the mother of Karios and Arkhesilaos. Who is she?! And is Karios supposed to be the same as Kar, the son of Zeus and Krete, and eponym of Karia? Who is Arkhesilaos?
19. Lysithea. A daughter of Okeanos. Is she perhaps the same as Lysithœ, the mother by Zeus of an ancient Herakles?
20. Deusos. Son of the Cyclops Arges and his wife, who was a nymph. What else about him?
21. Adeus. Son of Poseidon. What else about him?
22. Autoukhos. Son of Apollo and Cyrene, and brother of Aristaeus and Idmon. Who's he!?
23. Hyppolite. Daughter of Ares and Aphrodite. Is she supposed to be the Amazon Hippolyta, daughter of Ares and Otrere?
24. If King Manes of Lydia was a son of Zeus by Gaia, would that make him a giant or a monster or something (like his brothers the Centaurs of Cyprus or his hermaphroditic sibling Agdistis [later Kybele] or his [half-]brother Tityos)?
25. Autokhthe. One of the only two daughters of Perseus and Andromeda. A certain feminist website dedicated to ancient Amazons claims that she was an Amazon. Anyone reasonably for/against that notion?
26. Harpalyke. A virgin who killed herself over her [unrequited?] love for Iphikles (= the son of Amphitryon and Alkmene?). What else about her/them?
27. Ammon. King of Libya, son of Zeus and Akakallis and husband of Geta or Amaltheia. Serious chronological glitch if he and his wife helped nurse the infant Zeus (his own father!), but I think they're otherwise said to have nursed his infant half-brother Dionysos. What else about him and Geta?
28. Sterope. A daughter of Helios who married Eurypylus son of Poseidon and the Pleiad Celaeno. This Eurypylus migrated to Libya (from whichever divine place he originated) before the nymph Cyrene, and there fought "the" lion that attacked his flocks (though the story usually runs that Cyrene wrestled a lion [or lions] before being transplanted from her homeland to Libya by Apollo). In Libya Eurypylus was supposedly connected with the Argonauts and dedicated a sanctuary to Soteria at Patrae (in Achaea?). By Sterope he was the father of Lycaon and Leucippus (who are these guys?). This Eurypylus is otherwise known as the son of Hyperochus and father of Ormenus, or the son of the Thessalian Dexamenus son of Oeceus. What more of this Sterope and Eurypylus?
29. The Phaeacian bard Demodokos was the son of Korkyra. Is this Korkyra the same as the daughter of Asopos?
30. Asteria. Daughter of Atlas. Perhaps the same as the Pleiad Asterope (Sterope)?
31. Hippodameia. Daughter of Aniketos, and one of Zeus' many lovers. Is this Aniketos the son of Herakles and Hebe, and brother of Alexiares?
32. Erinome. Daughter of Celes (Keles?) who was apparently compelled by Venus (Aphrodite) to fall in love with Jupiter (Zeus). I'm not sure if this is supposed to be a Roman or Greek myth, nor have I any idea who Erinome or Celes were. A little help here…(?)
33. Theiodamas (Theodamas or Thiodamas). One of the Gigantes who fought against the gods in Gigantomakhia (the Gigantes' War). What more about him?
34. Gaius Hyginus gives us this list of Gigantes. Perhaps they fought against the gods in Gigantomakhia. But what else about them?
Alemone
Bebsicus
Celadon
Colophonus (Colophemus?)
Corydon or Epphracorydon?
Elentes and Mophius or Lentesmophius
Emphytus
Hellenius = Jenius (Ienius) ?
Menephriarus
Obrimus
Phœmis
Phrulus
Piculus
Pronomus
Rhœcus or Rhœtus
Rhuncus
Theomises
35. What more of the fight between Tyndareos and the Gigantos Eurytos? Like who won and stuff like that?
36. Tyrsios. One of the Gigantes who fought against the gods in Gigantomakhia. What else about him?
37. Ekphanto. A daughter of Zeus, of whom the only info seems to be that a certain Trophon or Grophon made a statue of her. A certain Welcker is cited in an 1829 document called The Classical Journal as saying that Ekphanto is "an epithet of Diana [Artemis]". Anyone got anything else?
1. Ornis. Said to be the mother, by King Stymphalos of Arkadia, of the voracious monster birds which plagued the Arkadian Lake Stymphalos, and which Herakles (Hercules) was ordered to get rid of as one of his twelve athloi. Who or what was Ornis? A hint: her name means "Bird," and I think she's an ornithanthropomorphic monster nymph like the Seirenes (Sirens) or the Harpies, but what do I know…?
2. Erytheia. Said to be the daughter of Geryones and mother, by Hermes, of the colonist hero Norax. Who was her mother, and is she supposed to have been a [perhaps red many-bodied] giant or ogre like her father?
3. Why are Akakallis and Satyraia (or Satyrion), daughters of Minos and Pasiphai, called nymphs while their sisters Ariadne, Phaidra and Xenodike appear to be ordinary women?
4. Ourea (Urea). Daughter of Poseidon and mother by Apollon (Apollo) of Ileus. Who was her mother, and is Ourea supposed to be a mountain-goddess (like her niece Aitna [Ætna]), since her name means "Mountain"?
5. Europe. Daughter of Tityos and mother by Poseidon of the Argonaut Euphemos. Is she supposed to be a giant (like her father) or a nymph or both?
6. Asterope. Mother by Helios of the witch Kirke (Circe). Might she be the same as the Pleiad Sterope, daughter of Atlas and Pleïone?
7. Pampholyge (or is it Pamphyloge?). Mother by Okeanos of Asia and Libya (Anatolia and Africa). Who is she?! I'm guessing she's a daughter of Okeanos with whom he himself consorted, like he did with another daughter Argeia, the mother of their daughter Melia (who married the Inakhos River). But what d'you think?
8. Memnon. Father of Theia, who becomes by Okeanos the mother of the Kerkopes (Cercopes.) Who is he?! Is he supposed to be the son of Tithonos and Eos, or are we talking about a different Memnon here?
9. Is Antianeira the mother by Hermes of the Argonauts Ekhion and Eurytos the same as Antianeira the mother by Apollon of Idmon?
10. Pyronia (or Phronia?). Mother by Minos of Iasion. Who is she?! An obscure fire-goddess, maybe?
11. Euryodia. Mother by Zeus of Arkeisios. Who is she?! A daughter of Minyas, perhaps?
12. Parthenope. The wife of Okeanos and mother of Europa, Thrace and Amphitrite. Is she supposed to be the same as Parthenope the Seiren (Siren)?
13. Zabios. King of the Hyperboreans, father of Themisto, grandfather of Galeus and ancestor of the Galeotai. What else about him or other Hyperborean kings?
14. Himantis. Mother by Apollon of Mopsos. Who is she?!
15. Manto. Mother by Apollon of Mopsos (a different one from the one above in #14?). Is she perhaps the same as Manto the daughter of Teiresias?
16. Babylonia. A nymph by whom Apollon became the father of Arabios. What else about her, apart from the obvious like the ancient empire based in what is now Iraq being named after her?
17. Pitys. A nymph who the North Wind Boreas smashed to death against a rock because she rejected his sexual advances. Is she supposed to be the same Pitys loved by Pan and who was changed into a pine-tree?
18. Torrhebia. A nymph who became by Zeus the mother of Karios and Arkhesilaos. Who is she?! And is Karios supposed to be the same as Kar, the son of Zeus and Krete, and eponym of Karia? Who is Arkhesilaos?
19. Lysithea. A daughter of Okeanos. Is she perhaps the same as Lysithœ, the mother by Zeus of an ancient Herakles?
20. Deusos. Son of the Cyclops Arges and his wife, who was a nymph. What else about him?
21. Adeus. Son of Poseidon. What else about him?
22. Autoukhos. Son of Apollo and Cyrene, and brother of Aristaeus and Idmon. Who's he!?
23. Hyppolite. Daughter of Ares and Aphrodite. Is she supposed to be the Amazon Hippolyta, daughter of Ares and Otrere?
24. If King Manes of Lydia was a son of Zeus by Gaia, would that make him a giant or a monster or something (like his brothers the Centaurs of Cyprus or his hermaphroditic sibling Agdistis [later Kybele] or his [half-]brother Tityos)?
25. Autokhthe. One of the only two daughters of Perseus and Andromeda. A certain feminist website dedicated to ancient Amazons claims that she was an Amazon. Anyone reasonably for/against that notion?
26. Harpalyke. A virgin who killed herself over her [unrequited?] love for Iphikles (= the son of Amphitryon and Alkmene?). What else about her/them?
27. Ammon. King of Libya, son of Zeus and Akakallis and husband of Geta or Amaltheia. Serious chronological glitch if he and his wife helped nurse the infant Zeus (his own father!), but I think they're otherwise said to have nursed his infant half-brother Dionysos. What else about him and Geta?
28. Sterope. A daughter of Helios who married Eurypylus son of Poseidon and the Pleiad Celaeno. This Eurypylus migrated to Libya (from whichever divine place he originated) before the nymph Cyrene, and there fought "the" lion that attacked his flocks (though the story usually runs that Cyrene wrestled a lion [or lions] before being transplanted from her homeland to Libya by Apollo). In Libya Eurypylus was supposedly connected with the Argonauts and dedicated a sanctuary to Soteria at Patrae (in Achaea?). By Sterope he was the father of Lycaon and Leucippus (who are these guys?). This Eurypylus is otherwise known as the son of Hyperochus and father of Ormenus, or the son of the Thessalian Dexamenus son of Oeceus. What more of this Sterope and Eurypylus?
29. The Phaeacian bard Demodokos was the son of Korkyra. Is this Korkyra the same as the daughter of Asopos?
30. Asteria. Daughter of Atlas. Perhaps the same as the Pleiad Asterope (Sterope)?
31. Hippodameia. Daughter of Aniketos, and one of Zeus' many lovers. Is this Aniketos the son of Herakles and Hebe, and brother of Alexiares?
32. Erinome. Daughter of Celes (Keles?) who was apparently compelled by Venus (Aphrodite) to fall in love with Jupiter (Zeus). I'm not sure if this is supposed to be a Roman or Greek myth, nor have I any idea who Erinome or Celes were. A little help here…(?)
33. Theiodamas (Theodamas or Thiodamas). One of the Gigantes who fought against the gods in Gigantomakhia (the Gigantes' War). What more about him?
34. Gaius Hyginus gives us this list of Gigantes. Perhaps they fought against the gods in Gigantomakhia. But what else about them?
Alemone
Bebsicus
Celadon
Colophonus (Colophemus?)
Corydon or Epphracorydon?
Elentes and Mophius or Lentesmophius
Emphytus
Hellenius = Jenius (Ienius) ?
Menephriarus
Obrimus
Phœmis
Phrulus
Piculus
Pronomus
Rhœcus or Rhœtus
Rhuncus
Theomises
35. What more of the fight between Tyndareos and the Gigantos Eurytos? Like who won and stuff like that?
36. Tyrsios. One of the Gigantes who fought against the gods in Gigantomakhia. What else about him?
37. Ekphanto. A daughter of Zeus, of whom the only info seems to be that a certain Trophon or Grophon made a statue of her. A certain Welcker is cited in an 1829 document called The Classical Journal as saying that Ekphanto is "an epithet of Diana [Artemis]". Anyone got anything else?
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